# Huel fan, but stopped **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [September 21, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197 "2017-09-21T10:13:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![hunzas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/hunzas/32/8275_2.png) [@hunzas](https://discuss.huel.com/u/hunzas)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/42 "2017-09-27T15:53:42Z")
I think those are all fair comments. ---
**Author:** ![JJMC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/jjmc/32/440_2.png) [@JJMC](https://discuss.huel.com/u/JJMC)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/43 "2017-09-30T19:16:46Z")
I just shake it like a mad thing and I’ve been lucky/fortunate perhaps not to have the lumping issue others describe. ---
**Author:** ![ryanhellyer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/ryanhellyer/32/1244_2.png) [@ryanhellyer](https://discuss.huel.com/u/ryanhellyer)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/44 "2017-09-30T22:36:59Z")
Even without the lumps, it’s still too thick and viscous. Most of Huel’s competitors don’t have that problem. I think the lumps are just a symptom of the problem, rather than the problem itself. Lumps can always be removed with a blender. ---
**Author:** ![gen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gen](https://discuss.huel.com/u/gen)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:50am UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/45 "2017-10-02T09:50:54Z")
> [@ryanhellyer](#): > > Most of Huel’s competitors don’t have that problem The viscosity is not a problem as such. It’s very much intentional and was introduced in 2.0. ---
**Author:** ![eyestwice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/eyestwice/32/3782_2.png) [@eyestwice](https://discuss.huel.com/u/eyestwice)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/46 "2017-10-04T01:04:49Z")
I like the viscosity of Huel and don’t even mind the lumps to be honest. Within reason of course - I just make sure to give the shaker a damn good thrashing! ---
**Author:** ![ryanhellyer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/ryanhellyer/32/1244_2.png) [@ryanhellyer](https://discuss.huel.com/u/ryanhellyer)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/47 "2017-10-04T04:10:41Z")
> [@gen](#): > > It’s very much intentional and was introduced in 2.0. Why the heck would anyone intentionally make it more viscous!? No wonder I prefer the competitors if that’s the case. ---
**Author:** ![gen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gen](https://discuss.huel.com/u/gen)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/48 "2017-10-04T08:42:16Z")
It was highly requested and one of the major complaints at the time that Huel was too thin. It did have a tendency to settle at the bottom a few minutes after mixing. 1.2 could be mixed at 100g to 400mil to water and it was still… watery. As in, milk kind of watery. I’ve read the descriptor ‘dishwater consistency’. You had to go to with less water to even approach thickness. Polls were put out. The majority of users now go from pleased to very pleased about the new viscosity, mouthfeel, calorie to water ratio and satiety. Others quit. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_Huel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/tim_huel/32/11195_2.png) [@Tim\_Huel](https://discuss.huel.com/u/Tim_Huel)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 10:05am UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/49 "2017-10-04T10:05:14Z")
@Gen is referring to Unflavoured Huel not Vanilla. > [@gen](#): > > It did have a tendency to settle at the bottom a few minutes after mixing. Since you use Vanilla @ryanhellyer this change in November 2016 to the viscosity of U/U Huel would not have affected you. ---
**Author:** ![ryanhellyer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/ryanhellyer/32/1244_2.png) [@ryanhellyer](https://discuss.huel.com/u/ryanhellyer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 10:56am UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/50 "2017-10-05T10:56:35Z")
> [@gen](#): > > 1.2 could be mixed at 100g to 400mil to water and it was still… watery. As in, milk kind of watery. I’ve read the descriptor ‘dishwater consistency’. You had to go to with less water to even approach thickness. That sounds much better, more the like the competitor that I’m drinking now. I find that very confusing that people would actually prefer it that way. I’d actually been concerned that the other products had a better consistency due to adding something like maltodextrin to drive the food into solution and so had been avoiding many of them out of concerns of that. ---
**Author:** ![gen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gen](https://discuss.huel.com/u/gen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/51 "2017-10-05T11:59:08Z")
> [@ryanhellyer](#): > > other products had a better consistency due to adding something like maltodextrin to drive the food into solution You mean they add something to make it thinner? No. Huel adds to make it thicker. Not to say gum blends are inherently bad for you, they’re just extra, and minimal. To be fair, a smoother and more homogenous mouthfeel that neither settles or clumps would probably appeal the the greatest amount of people. Business is business, in the end, and probably why some brands have gone straight to selling pre-mixed bottles. It’s similar to what’s already on shelves. Water to calorie ratio hasn’t exactly been something I’ve seen mentioned anywhere. Although pretty much every brand goes with the “meal replacement” and “all you need in a day”, 2k calories marketing wordpoopery, as some sort of day-to-day solution, they don’t address how well some would find it at an aggressive surplus. Some of us like to do that. I suspect the vast marketable consumer base prefer losing or maintaining weight. Appealing to them is important. This also makes sense, but from someone who just wants to buy calories to certain macro and micro values, overconsumption of some values be damned, I prefer caloric density. I also can’t drink thick liquids without discomfort. So a 1:1 calorie to milliliter ratio is one of my highest rated metrics. Aside from that, satiety levels are also pretty important. Then again, I had no trouble being sated on 2k calories of Huel 1.2 UU. Maybe some did. At some point “add more water” just means “piss all the time”, and I could do with way less of that. ---
**Author:** ![ryanhellyer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/ryanhellyer/32/1244_2.png) [@ryanhellyer](https://discuss.huel.com/u/ryanhellyer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/52 "2017-10-05T12:55:16Z")
> [@gen](#): > > You mean they add something to make it thinner? That’s what I thought it was. It didn’t dawn on me that Huel would have been adding something to intentionally make it thicker. I had assumed that making it thinner was one of the main goals of the Huel team. But it seems their goal was the exact opposite of what I had thought they were trying to do 😕 ---
**Author:** ![gen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gen](https://discuss.huel.com/u/gen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/53 "2017-10-05T13:09:07Z")
There’s value in finding a good middle ground. Not for me, of course, I hate it. But I understand the idea. ---
**Author:** ![ryanhellyer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/ryanhellyer/32/1244_2.png) [@ryanhellyer](https://discuss.huel.com/u/ryanhellyer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/54 "2017-10-05T13:23:26Z")
I suspect a middle ground is a bad idea. I assume people will either want thick viscous goop or buttery smooth. In between may satisfy nobody. I had incorrectly assumed nobody wanted thick viscous goop and also incorrectly guessed that there was a valid nutritional reason for Huel being thicker than it’s competitors. ---
**Author:** ![gen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gen](https://discuss.huel.com/u/gen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/55 "2017-10-05T14:07:08Z")
If the middle ground yields a higher return, retains more customers and yields greater satisfaction while outnumbering the number of people who simply don’t buy, it is at the very least a viable idea. Whether or not the values look different with a greater spread of products through a greater number of variables is worth exploring, but if you’re simultaneously banking limited amounts of real hard money on these decisions… you know, you don’t gamble and you follow through on the decisions. At least before setting out to make new ones. 1.2 UU, among all the lents I’ve tried, was my favorite. I bought it by the pallet load at the end. But the market is new, brands are popping up all over the place, and I’ve high hopes I’ll find my perfect alternative one of these days. Might even be Huel, who knows. Until then, compromise 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ryanhellyer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/ryanhellyer/32/1244_2.png) [@ryanhellyer](https://discuss.huel.com/u/ryanhellyer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/56 "2017-10-05T18:44:00Z")
This would likely solve my concerns with Huel: > [@POLL: Pre-bottled Huel, Yes or No?](https://discuss.huel.com/t/poll-pre-bottled-huel-yes-or-no/5470): > > Do you think Huel should make a pre-bottled version like Soylent have? [poll](https://discuss.huel.com/t/poll-pre-bottled-huel-yes-or-no/5470/1) I’m assuming that a pre-bottled Huel wouldn’t have thickener in it to avoid it turning solid while in storage. I’ve made assumptions here previously though, so perhaps this assumption is wrong too 😕 ---
**Author:** ![DEL1337](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/del1337/32/1422_2.png) [@DEL1337](https://discuss.huel.com/u/DEL1337)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/57 "2017-10-09T13:17:26Z")
I think buttery smooth IS the middle ground. The other end is watery were the solids don’t mix well with the liquids. But that middle ground is hard to reach. To be both liquid enough, without lumps, without the solids quickly separating from the liquids, but also full enough, smooth enough, drinking down fast enough but not too fast, etc. ---
**Author:** ![johnconnor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@johnconnor](https://discuss.huel.com/u/johnconnor)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/58 "2017-10-10T19:41:12Z")
@ryanhellyer, @gen, what are you eating these days? My meals now require so much water that I have to plan my life around Huel instead of the other way around. And as much as I’d like to try something else I haven’t found anything with ingredients and nutritional profile as sane as Huel’s. ---
**Author:** ![gen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gen](https://discuss.huel.com/u/gen)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/59 "2017-10-10T22:32:15Z")
I’m still looking for alternatives, but I’ve settled on Bertrand supplemented with protein, for now. Also trying to get used to GlycoGenesis, because maybe and why not, and keeping an eye out on eatcomplete. Market is still growing. Unfortunately my sensitivity to thickness trumps nutritional yada yada, so there we are. If Ambronite was five times cheaper I would of course do that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ryanhellyer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/ryanhellyer/32/1244_2.png) [@ryanhellyer](https://discuss.huel.com/u/ryanhellyer)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/60 "2024-03-01T14:20:24Z")
This is a VERY delayed response lol. I’m back to Huel. I’ve been regularly consuming the premade Huel since it came out. It’s still thick and gloopy, but not needing to mix it myself is kinda epic IMO. I just keep a bunch in my fridge and whenever I’m in a hurry or short on food, I just chug one down. ---
**Author:** ![mbs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.huel.com/mbs/32/10103_2.png) [@mbs](https://discuss.huel.com/u/mbs)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197/61 "2024-03-01T18:41:56Z")
Huel is one of the few companies that offers gluten-free, oat-free products. Competitors like Jakefood or Queal contain more calories per meal and are said to taste better, but these contain oats. Jimmyjoy also seems to taste better and has a better texture according to friends, is cheaper and has a good nutrient profile, but it contains even oats and soy. So I haven’t tried them. And would’t recommend these, as I believe that gluten is massively detrimental to health. The only alternative is a German company, but their products are not vegan and contain lots of sugars. I mention the names because I believe that these are inferior products. As I said, I strongly recommend elimination gluten altogether. A good book on that topic is “grain brain” from D. Perlmutter. There is no real hard, good evidence, but elimination gluten has had major health benefits for me and I feel much better. [Previous page](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197.md?page=2) [Next page](https://discuss.huel.com/t/huel-fan-but-stopped/7197.md?page=4)