However, as detective @hunzas thorough investigation has now established, the original point was complete shite, therefore this thread is also complete shite.
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(I bet you look dandy in the tweed skirt)
Worth noting that 400 calories is a serving suggestion, if you wanted to increase/decrease the amount per portion you can
I actually agree that 400kcal per meal is too much for some of us (unless its my main evening meal). And the old adage of 2000 kcal per person is needed a day is not correct in the slightest. That is dependant on so many factors, obvious ones being size (an 8 stone women needs less than a 20 stone man) and job also matters, as manual labourer needs way more calories than an office worker for instance. And atheletes need way more than that. Other factors also affect this. Likewise a lot of people intermittent fast these days and live on one meal a day only or 2.
I use the Huel powder in the morning (supposedly a meal equivalent) on gym days and only use 1 scoop instead of the recommended 2 scops as I dont eat 400 calories for breakfast plus 2 scoops is too filling and bloating.
Its really all a matter of what works for each individual and what calories you actually need vs what you want to consume.
2000kcal is a guide based on the âaverage personâ, with the average person being a healthy BMI, is not an athlete and does not have an excessively physically demanding job. If you fall outside of one of these factors then you have to adjust accordingly. There has to be a starting point somewhere and I think 2000kcal is quite an accurate starting point for the average person and works for me for maintaining weight.
Thats great for you. I donât personally need 2000 calories a day. In fact a lot of people eat FAR more than they really need to (because someone has set out a fact like this). Iâve been doing intermittent fasting for months now, and could easily survive on one meal a day (I donât as I would loose too much weight). Iâve had way more energy since doing that and brain is clearer and once you start doing that you actually realise how much unnecessary food you were actually eating and also stop craving all the crap food.
However Iâve lost more weight than I need to so have to try to increase my calories by eating lots of nuts and having all my protein shakes or complete powder with milk in, to bolster calories. But even then I wouldnât want to eat 2000 calories a day. And what is the average person - is it a size 10 or size 14 (thats a rhetorical question by the way!).
At the end of the day it is whatever works for each individual and their own needs as opposed to eating food to ensure they hit a target of 2000 calories.
Iâm merely explaining why a recommended 2000 calories is a pretty stupid idea. If you want to be scientific and correct about it then people should see a nutritionalist and find out whats actually right for them. But if you believe its a good starting point for yourself then I am cool with that if it works for you.
Donât they recommend 2500 for a man and 2000 for a woman? I agree though that for many people those figures are too high and thus their figures are too round.
What a bizarre thing to have a rant over.
If you are not dealing with an illness or disability I would suggest that your health is likely to benefit from being less sedentary.
If, by eating one meal a day you would lose too much weight then you cannot survive on that - you would die.
You suggest that having a guide of 2000 calories as a reference for the average person is a stupid idea and that people should see a nutritionist to determine their personal exact requirements: fascinating.
Then you canât survive on it then can you the 2000kcal figure is for long term healthy living. Anybody can survive a few weeks on hardly any food but itâs not sustainable in the long term.
I think youâve taken this guideline and gone a bit crazy with it tbh. Itâs never been advertised as a fixed target for every person and for every set of body types / activity levels, but it is a fairly accurate starting point for most people to work from before working out whether they need more or less for them based on their individual needs.
I think youâre not reading my replies properly and interpreting how you want to. And until youâve done intermittent fasting and lived like it then you clearly donât understand. There are thousands of people doing one meal a day only for years and have never felt better.
Thats just crazy. I could easily survive on one meal a day - I dont want to as I like the weight i am and dont want to go below that ⌠not because Iâd die - where do you get that from ??? And until youâve done intermittent fasting and lived like it then you clearly donât understand it. There are thousands of people doing one meal a day only for years and have never felt better and are healthier than theyâve ever been. I will eat as little or as many calories as suits me - although i donât count calories as dont see the point. But having an aim on calories is not ideal.
You canât lose weight continuously. YOU. WILL. DIE.
You could do one meal a day of 2000 calories for years though. I know @rikefrejut did and maybe still does.
2 calories or 2000, if itâs making you lose weight you canât do it forever.
Yes but the person arguing the point didnât actually say that. They said they have lost weight. they have done IF and it works for them, and now they want to increase weight. Once you have reached your target weight you can actually do OMAD and maintain weight, and just tweak it a bit as necessary. As I said I think another person here does just that.
I think youâre a bit crazy. If youâre eating you wont die (unless youâve a medical condition or get hit by a car etc). People eat one good meal a day and are fine. I suggest you google it and stop acting like a crazy person. I fast 24 hrs one day a week and the other days I fast 18 - 20 hrs. I am fine. Lots of people fast completely 1-3 days a week and the rest of the week do 18 hr fasts. Theyâve not died and are healthier . Get your facts straight before responding further.
I donât care about this enough to argue about it.
One meal a day, ten meals a day, one meal a week, it doesnât matter; if fewer calories go in than go out, it cannot be sustained indefinitely.
Facts wonât change your mind, name calling wonât change mine.
What are you at this point even arguing about? Obviously you can survive on one âmealâ a day, but you still have to eat enough calories and nutrients.
This whole discussion seems to be based on nonsensical and unscientific claims. Itâs of no value to know how many hours you fast, or if you only eat one meal a day, without knowing your average daily calorie intake, and what youâve eaten.
You will after some time, if you donât eat enough calories and get enough nutrients.
Well this is interestingâŚ
The calorie intake is recommend, this surely is clear. And many things are based on averages for general health. The source of calories is also quite key. All bodies are different and so have different needs. Iâm not sure many are that active and thereâs guidelines on that too. Should all be read in conjunction - calories, breakdown of nutrients, and activity.
If weight is being lost then the intake isnât enough, or one was having too many calories before. In that case youâd expect a point of weight maintenance. Not âtoo muchâ weight loss.
Intermittent fasting is fine and is a thing - it encourages fat burning therefore needs fewer calories. I even do it without planning as such, but also I donât stuff my face generally. Thatâs not what the idea of 2k calories is though, to just eat anything. Plus it includes drink. And Iâm not sure that guide is why people eat so much because people donât seem to care about fruit and veg intake, according to studies. But anyway, there still remains significant issues, long term I might add and highlight, from deficits in calories and nutrients. Intermittent fasting shouldnât get you into that, in theory. You still need to meet basic body needs. As above, each body has different needs. But many will need more calories than that overall.
Iâm quite active, I donât put weight on easily. Others I know are different. But many Iâve spoken with about nutrition say that donât care enough, and I think thatâs not unusual. This is more likely why 2k seems too much. Chances are many are consuming MOREâŚ. Iâve not seen much to say 2k is, on the whole, too much