@Tim_Huel Oat & Raisin = 404 page not found?
Found this one though:
Sorry that was a link to the USA website, my fault. Thatās the recipe though. Iām certain you can use regular or green raisins 
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Actually, Iāve got a genuinely good idea 
I run a lot and use gels, but pretty much the only ones that arenāt just sugar are made by Hammer nutrition, Iād love to see a Huel Sports Gel.
Iāve made super thick Huel to varying success in the past.
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My wish would be that the Calcium Carbonate is replaced with another form of Calcium, e.g. Calcium Citrate or phosphate.
I just opened my first delivery of Huel shakes and realised to my great disappointment I hadnāt checked the ingredients properly (my fault entirely). I am intolerant to Calcium Carbonate so I canāt use any of the products.
The medical world have recently discovered that 4-6% of the population are intolerant to Calcium Carbonate (I can provide the research papers which my gastroenterologist provided). It can causes all sorts of issues including IBS, food intolerance, skin conditions and many more. Although hard water is obviously a problem many food providers are switching to the alternatives. It would be amazing if Huel could do this too.
My partner is tucking into the shakes and loving them so far.
Two wishes - that some of the Hot and Savoury flavours were less hot (the best tasting ones are all too spicy for me), and a breakfast item or two (Hot & Savoury Bacon & Eggs, anyone?)
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Hi @Cathy - Thanks for raising this.
The reason why we use calcium carbonate is that itās the form most suitable for our products. Calcium citrate is a pro-caking agent meaning that it causes huge lumps in Huel (yes, we tried it in Huel v2.0 
). Calcium carbonate, as well as being a source of calcium (our reason for including it) also acts as an anti-caking agent. I donāt know the caking properties of calcium phosphate - but itās something we could look into.
Some research has indicated that calcium carbonate is slightly less well absorbed than calcium citrate, but this seems to be where thereās more of an issue with stomach acid as calcium isnāt absorbed so well in such an environment. So, this might be a potential issue for those with upper GI surgery, like bariatric patients or stomach cancer. However, this is only an issue for absorption, not intolerance (as far as Iām aware from the literature Iāve read). In any case, much of the calcium in Huel products is naturally occurring from the main ingredients; we add extra calcium carbonate to meet the level we want to achieve.
As I havenāt come across any claims that thereās a proportion of the population who are intolerant to calcium carbonate; I had a quick look on Google Scholar and couldnāt find anything. I will discuss with my colleague whoās more au fait with bariatrics to see if she knows anymore. Otherwise, it would be really helpful if you would provide the refs to the research papers, we can peruse them and come back to you.
Thanks
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Hi James, thanks for your reply.
What a shame the citrate caused lumps - great that you tried it though.
These are the 3 papers the consultant sent me (heās a professor of paediatrics and gastroenterology). They are a bit heavy going but the references are:
Vilarino, N., De la Rosa, L. A., Vieytes, M. R., & Botana, L. M. (2001). HCOā 3 Ions Increase Mast Cell Sensitivity to Thapsigargin-Induced Ca2+ Entry. Biochemical and biophysical research communications , 280 (2), 518-521.
Lyons, J. J., Yu, X., Hughes, J. D., Le, Q. T., Jamil, A., Bai, Y., ā¦ & Milner, J. D. (2016). Elevated basal serum tryptase identifies a multisystem disorder associated with increased TPSAB1 copy number. Nature genetics , 48 (12), 1564-1569.
Sprecher, E. (2016). Understanding unspecific complaints through genetics. Nature genetics , 48 (12), 1450-1451.
Btw, my partner lost 2lbs on day one drinking the milkshake and is delighted. Itās clearly a great product!
ā¦If itās any help, Alpro Almond Milk (no sugars) use Tri-calcium phosphate. I believe they used to use Calcium Carbonate and may possibly still use it in some of their products.
Thanks for those refs - weāll have a look and feedback
Btw, my partner lost 2lbs on day one drinking the milkshake and is delighted. Itās clearly a great product!
Great to hear!
If itās any help, Alpro Almond Milk (no sugars) use Tri-calcium phosphate. I believe they used to use Calcium Carbonate and may possibly still use it in some of their products
Unfortunately, tricalcium phosphate is also a pro-caking agent. As I understand it, also, tricalcium phosphate isnāt permitted in fortified food products in the EU - unless that regulation has changedā¦
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Surely the powder is already āconcentratedā as itās a powder and contains nothing else than what itās made of.
Silicon chips are made of water so pure that itās toxic. Coca cola is a toxic liquid for traffic drivers who move its concentrate from factory to factory. I am no expert in this topic and my idea was to have a super concentrate. How you do that? That is for scientists lol
I know it tastes bad but didnāt realise it was that bad. 
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Hey Cathy! Thanks so much for sending these along. I wanted to pop in here and join the discussion too, I hope that is alright.
I just took a look at the first two references, but was not able to find the third one by Sprecher, E (2016). Do you happen to have a link?
With regard to the other two references, and please correct me if I missed it or misunderstood, but it doesnāt seem they point to calcium carbonate intolerances or that it can definitely cause these issues? Upon quick review, one was a study in rats looking at calcium in regards to bicarbonate in two different mediums in mast cells and the other was on elevated basal serum tryptase but doesnāt mention calcium.
I tried to see if I could find any additional information through searches of the literature linking basal serum tryptase to calcium carbonate intolerance or more information on a calcium carbonate intolerance generally, but I didnāt have any luck either. 
I completely agree and Iāve not heard of an intolerance to calcium carbonate before either. Iāve only seen that it may have a lower absorption when compared to calcium citrate. Of course though, if you were told you have an intolerance to calcium carbonate, definitely follow the guidelines/recommendations from your doctor.
In the case of bariatric surgery, individuals require vitamin/mineral supplementation for the rest of their lives. Calcium citrate is preferred for their calcium supplement, but individuals can still consume calcium carbonate if needed. I will also note that this supplementation is separate to the food/drink they consume.
Thinking about calcium carbonate more generally in Huel, thereās actually a few favorable things. These include that itās being consumed in the food which aids the absorption as well as the fact that itās a smaller amount at a time. This fact sheet from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in the US is a great one that provides a bunch more detail on calcium overall too as well as some more detail on the above points. The NIH supplement fact sheets tend to be a go-to for me as theyāre super informative.
If you donāt mind me asking - is there a way to test for this intolerance and/or how did you find out about it? Super interesting and Iād love to learn more.
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Quality Huel stickers. I left some space free on my laptop. Please? 
Hello!
A flavour I would love to see on the hot and savoury is Tikka Masalaā:drooling_face:
GAME CHANGER
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YES! Love a good Tikka Masala! Weāve got a ton of curry options now but who knows what the future will see!
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+1000 to this request, Iām receiving today my new laptop and have free space on my skate helmet! 
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also an Iāmma Hueligan design or sth
Hi, Iāve been a Hueligan for a year now and these are my wishlist items:
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change the minimum settings when ordering, or allow a wider range of options to mix and match
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A Huel running vest
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tshirts back in stock with a range of colours (red, blue or green)
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a mushroom risotto version of H&S
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Extending the clothing range would make customers more likely to wear things with a Huel logo - which is the best form of advertisement you can get. So it seems to be very clever from a marketing perspective.