I’d really like to understand why they did this. I’ve seen James Collier mention that it was necessary to reach minimum levels of sodium. What are these minimum levels that you were aiming for? Where do they come from / what are the references? Why is your minimum higher than WHO maximum?
Did you factor in the fact that almost any doctor or health professional who is asked about Huel will now recommend against it as it exceeds recommended salt levels (especially for older people)?
I’m down to my last bag of v1.2 U/U and really bummed that 2.0 might be (by the sounds of things) way too salty. I run and exercise quite a lot, so not crazy worried about it, but I also do those things in part to look after my heart so annoyed that Huel (which has made a huge difference to my health by joining good diet with good exercise) could contribute to hypertension etc. in later life if I continue to use it as I currently am (three shakes a day plus a more traditional meal in the evening which tends to be saltier if my g/f is cooking, or a meal out which will always have more sodium). I know I’ve said this elsewhere, but it’s so so easy to add salt to things, and for Huel to offer salt as a seperate thing to add for people who want it, that this whole thing just seems so strange, and particularly to make the change without consulting the community here who, if not totally representative of all their customers, are likely the most knowledgeable and also their most vocal advocates to new users. To put it simply: I can’t unreservedly recommend Huel to friends anymore and I don’t know if it can continue being a substantial part of my diet.
I think there is another mistake on the label of U/U compared to Vanilla - they both state they contain 1.3g of salt per 100g of Huel. It is impossible for both to have the same amount of salt per 100g - can you please have a look at it @Julian@JamesCollier ? Huel U/U label should state higher amount of salt per 100g than Huel Vanilla label.
Rough calculation says it should state 1.4g of salt per 100g of Huel.
As far as I can interpret, it is actually well into the RED warning if you go by the Sodium guideline. Much of the 1.3g of “Salt” per 100g is actually pure Sodium and NOT Sodium Chloride (Table Salt). They simply had to list it all as “Salt” as per nutritional labelling guidelines.
EDIT: I’m probably wrong on this. Will investigate further.
I don’t think that interpretation is correct, we discussed it in Sodium content missing on label . They take the Sodium content, and from the Sodium they calculate the salt, not the other way round. I agree however, that Huel should directly state the Sodium content on the label too.
No. The amounts per 2000kcal are the same for both vanilla and U/U, it is just the amounts per 100g.
You can notice that the amounts of everything are different between Vanilla and U/U per 100g. That’s because Vanilla Huel includes the vanilla flavor system, which has a mass and therefore changes the amounts per 100g, and U/U does not contain this flavoring system. However both vanilla and U/U contain the same amounts of ingredients per 2000kcal (or per day, whichever way you like to interpret it).
1.3g of Salt per 100g and 6.4g of Salt per day (where day is 2000kcal or 485g)
There is immediately a problem here - 6.4/1.3 = 4.923. But 485/100 = 4.85. Those two results should be equal and they are not. I took the larger of the two for my 6.9g of Salt per day calculation.
Doing the same for Vanilla you get: 6.4/1.3 = 4.923. But 500/100 = 5.
The obvious problem here is rounding errors - presumably they must round to nearest 0.1g. So my takeaway is that you are better off comparing the complete day/2000kcal values. I get what you are saying - how can the values of 6.4g of Salt per day be equal for both Vanilla and U/U given the added mass in Vanilla however - maybe they just tweaked the formula and they arrived to that same number (within the rounding error)?
I went through my math again, and you’re right, it is impossible to tell where they did the rounding, and where they used approximate values because the exact calculations do not match up for most of the ingredients.
We just haven’t given all our values to multiple decimal places. We could put every figure to multiple decimal places, however the label would look insane. We want to be transparent but we also don’t want everyone to be able to make Huel too. I assure you that if you saw the per 100g figures to a few more decimal places they would add up correctly.
Just wanted to say that I like the higher salt amount in the new huel. It makes me crave salty stuff less. I work out and sweat a lot. I think I need more salt to balance that out, and my body tells me so by giving me a craving for salty stuff. When I drink huel, this is much less bad than with joylent.
It’s certainly possible you weren’t getting enough salt before, but you could supplement that by adding a pinch, having a pack of crisps.
The amount added to v2.0 goes way beyond. Moving from v1.2 to v2.0 on 2000cal per day is additional salt equivalent to more than 6 packets of crisps!
Calorie for calorie Huel is now substantially (~20%) saltier than ready salted crisps. You are getting more salt than if you ate a pure crisps diet. To me its clear that that must be too much, even if there was too little before.
This tweet from Huel’s Twitter feed in November 2015 uses language that warns us against consuming high salt levels (“watch out for”). The tweet directly compares salt levels between Huel v1.2 and Tesco and promotes Huel as ‘the healthy alternative.’
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Huel version 2.0 has 1.3g of salt per 100g, whereas Tesco’s BLT has 1.4g of salt per 100g. [2]
So Huel v2.0 is now, according to their own 2015 health standards, something to ‘watch out for’.
At least Tesco use the traffic light system which clearly displays the salt content, whereas Huel just told us the salt content had ‘gone up a little bit’ - the rest we had to figure out for ourselves.