Indeed, when does the seemingly upward-only revision of the salt level stop? Might we ever just lock-in on a particular formula such that I know I can buy this repeatedly for a few years?
I’ll put it another way - I saw the low-sodium aspect of Huel V1.0 to be very attractive. The first time it increased I didn’t kick up a storm (and maybe I should have) but now I consider Huel V2.0 to be undrinkable. Same goes for the addition of Fluoride. Either change on it’s own is bizarre, both changes at once are incredible.
I think removing the fluoride and decreasing the salt (not completely removing) will turn out to be a very popular decision.
Admittedly when I drink Huel (especially when I started) I felt as though I then lacked salt throughout the day. Craving crisps or a marmite sandwich or similar. So I think it’s a good thing, but you’ve put too much in.
A good friend of mine is a dentist, specialising in surgical and cosmetic dentistry, and we have often discussed fluoride usage, as I actively seek to eliminate it from my diet due to the many health issues already raised in this thread.
For several years now I have only consumed water from my ZeroWater filtration system to ensure that I do not have any fluoride in my system - being forced to intake fluoride would be of grave concern to me and would lead me to investigate alternatives to Huel.
The bottom line from our discussions is that the only need for fluoride in terms of dental requirements is that it be used as a topical treatment, i.e. fluoridated toothpaste applied directly to the teeth - ingesting it provides an extremely diluted assistance to oral benefit, whilst allowing the fluoride to permeate all tissues within the body.
Due to this and the controversial nature of forced fluoridation already prevelant in water treatment, it would make sense to leave Huel fluoride free, and allow those who may need fluoride for dental reasons to choose a fluoridated toothpaste, as would be recommended by any dentist upon regular check ups as and when needed.
Wow zoltan, way to quote something out of context just to support your opinion. The full FAQ is:
“ZeroWater filters are not certified for the reduction of fluoride however fluoride is an inorganic compound. The TDS meter is designed to detect inorganic compounds. Fluoride levels in water are usually around 2 to 4 ppm, which will show up on the meter as 002 to 004.”
So when the water is showing 000 (most of the filter’s life) it is actively removing fluoride.
So this thread is about a poll, and the poll currently shows 82% in favour of removing Sodium Flouride in Huel…Does this mean it will be removed for v2.1, and how long until version 2.1?
Nobody knows outside of the Huel team, and they are likely waiting for longer term numbers related to sales of Huel 2.0, so you’re not going to get any reply from them any time soon (and this is reasonable from a business perspective).
The poll is irrelevant, it has only ~100 people voting, compared to the ~thousands of Huel subscribers. If you really wish to vote, vote with your wallet. If they see a decrease of sales of Huel 2.0, they would be more likely to make quicker changes.
Or you can just “do it yourself” by buying similar ingredients and mixing it up to make your own powdered food. If you value your nutrition more than the convenience of someone preparing it for yourself, then this is the only way to go - you will always be in control of what you eat.
Fair point about the poll. I still think the smaller poll result on here could be indicative of a broader mindset, but then we all know about exit polls and that election result.
As for the DIY, I once tried to make a toy model car, and glued it to my forehead, so I’ll leave it to the experts. I’m only asking because I’m probably not going to buy anymore 2.0 when the lot I have runs out, and would love to know how many months I’m going to have to live off tuna and microwave rice. And sweetcorn.
There are people on both sides of the poll who just voted out of emotion as opposed to having studied the issue. Combined with the small sample size, it is reasonable for the Huel team to ignore the results of the poll.
Up to you, it’s not that hard, and it’s quite fun too. I am preparing to go that way once I run out of my Huel 1.2 supplies (which I have been rationing) and made some tests already. Making it myself creates a bit of mess (nothing I cannot handle) and takes some time, but in the end it is nutritionally complete, healthy, and I only use what I want to use. In my case, the price comes exactly the same as Huel subscription when buying 112 meals. I could probably make it even cheaper if I bought a larger amount of the individual ingredients, but I have no way of storing them for a long enough time without them going off.
You don’t have to do that. If you like the concept of powdered nutritionally complete foods, there are many alternatives. I am not going to name any specific product - have a look at various lists:
Julian, I hadn’t seen this post, please please do the removing and recommending thing, it’s absolutely the best decision and offers control to the user (in the same way as we can currently up various micros and macros as we need, e.g. adding whey powder if working out). And also salt btw. Lower it and recommend supplementing for the very specific circumstances where some people may need to go above the EU recommended limit rather than take everyone above (and way beyond, very likely, for anyone who has treat meals on top of their Huel). I love this product, I hope it doesn’t seem like I’m ranting, but salt and fluoride as presented are the only things where you’re restricting choice rather than maximising it for a significant proportion of your customers. Keep being awesome on everything else though
