Ridiculous. You should not be agnostic towards your health. Go make a concerted effort to inform yourself. After-all, you will likely be eating food for the rest of your life. Ignorance (and the poor quality processed/junk food environment) is how people sleep walk into the lifestyle diseases of the Western World. Huel was a welcome break from such a food environment (and it made informing the user simple - just study one product). They’ve sadly entered the former group with V2.0.
And that should be a reminder that food products are fickle - fruits and vegetables rarely change their formula, so you can rely on them. And they certainly don’t try to compete with toothpaste.
Feel that is a little unfair. I don’t particularly want fluoride in but happy to trust Huel to make the decision too. So no choice that is pertinent to me.
Here’s the European Food Safety Authority’s recommendations on Fluoride (page 363):
Fluoride is not essential for human growth and development but is beneficial in the prevention of dental caries (tooth decay) when ingested in amounts of about 0.05 mg/kg body weight per day and when applied topically with dental products such as toothpaste.
Hence a recommended daily fluoride amount of 0.05*75kg=3.75 mg for a man. Huel has 0.7mg of fluoride per 100g (400 kcal). A man eating 2400 calories a day will therefore eat 4.2mg of fluoride a day from Huel. Therefore, just eating Huel (without drinking fluoridated water or accidentally ingesting toothpaste) will already put you 12% over the NRV of fluoride. Add a typical fluoridation of tap water of 1mg/L (if your communal water is fluoridated) with 2L of water drunk a day. That’s another 2mg of fluoride. An 100% diet of Huel with fluoridated water amounts to 6.2mg of fluoride. That’s 189% of the recommended daily amount of fluoride.
The tolerable upper intake of fluoride for adults is 7mg/day.Therefore, the fluoride content of a 100% Huel diet is a lot closer to the upper level than to the NRV for many people (though for many people the fluoride content of Huel is good as they get less than the NRV). I understand why many are uncomfortable with its addition to Huel. I’d rather have an intake closer to the NRV than to the tolerable upper intake. If people really want fluoride in Huel I think it should at least be reduced a little bit for those with fluoridated water, especially considering it doesn’t have any nutritional benefits.
I work for a water company, and they don’t add any flouride to the water at all in any way, but it still naturally contains flouride because the world contains flouride.
And the British are avid tea drinkers. 1 litre of brewed tea, which is three or four mugs of decent quality tea bags would give you 6mg of flouride (cheaper bags having more, NHS: http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/07July/Pages/do-fluoride-levels-in-cheap-tea-pose-a-health-risk.aspx ) means that anyone who has just 3 or four cups of tea a day would already be getting well over the (US) “maximum tolerable limit” and all of us Brits are still absolutely fine after hundreds of years of tea drinking.
So I’m really not going to lose any sleep over it. Not for all the tea in China.
Doesn’t it stand to reason though that if we get a load of fluoride in tea, adding more is probably not a good idea? Water, Tea, Toothpaste and now Huel, someone could end up getting too much and becoming ill, is it really worth the risk? (written while enjoying a nice cup of Tetleys tea)
But in 2000cal of Huel there’s only 3.5mg of flouride. If that’s with 2 lites of water at 1.5mg of flouride per litre (check the flouride level on your water company website, you probably have much less than that in your area) that’s still only 6.5mg of flouride a day.
My area is at 1.5mg/l Add in the tea I drink, as you said above is 6mg, and the huel and we are up to what…12.5mg (6 mg from tea, 6…5 from 2lt of water and 2000cal of huel) Yeah…no thanks.
I’ve not even factored in toothpaste use as I don’t use toothpaste, not cos of fluoride, I just can’t stand the taste.
@Aangiix3 No need to wait. Just get Nano instead. Made from many of the same ingredients, but without added Fluoride or salt, from what I can tell. Free delivery to Europe.
No need to wait around for one product to meet your criteria when there is an alternative similar product available. No need to even debate the issue anymore. The Huel team know the issues, and it’s clear that people on here aren’t going to agree with each other.
Most of it has 1ppm or less, some areas just have it as naturally occurring fluoride.
It’s a bit early in the day for me to do maths, but how much does 1ppm of fluoride weigh when dry so that I can calculate how many mee-gees of fluoride you’re getting in a litre of water?
Water has a molecular mass of 18.01528 g/mol
Fluoride has a molecular mass of 18.9984 g/mol
I’m not in NE28, I am in NE29. https://www.nwl.co.uk/_assets/files/wq/N140.pdf
Flouride Dissolved 1.5mg/l Either way, I would still prefer not to have it added to the Huel. I am also not happy about the salt levels.
So, unless or until they lower/remove the fluoride and salt, I am not buying it.
Sorry, delayed by a software update, leaving in a bit. Although the salt bit is deffo for another thread, I do remember a lot of posts about people (back in 1.1 & 1.2 days) having headaches on 100% Huel, which posters put down to the low salt content, so adding salt to Huel should stop that from happening. I haven’t noticed any ‘huel headache’ stories for a while so I’m guessing that’s stopped it.
I’m looking at Nutberg or Pulve as alternatives to Huel v2.0 because I’d prefer one without dextrose / maltodextrin which most seem to have. Unfortunately neither of those shipping for a couple of weeks due to being out of stock.
You could consider making your own homemade Huel in the interim. See here for inspiration - DIY Huel - “Duel”. If you have a blender (especially a high-speed one) and a weighing scales you’re halfway there. I haven’t arrived at an exact recipe yet unfortunately.
Edit: Pulve is interesting - will keep an eye out for when there is more V2.0 info.
