@Phil_C Can I ask what you do for a living? I’ve been browsing old threads and you seem to know so much about packaging and material properties? Understand if you’d rather not say / can’t say because you actually make new gadgets for the secret service etc
no - I don’t mind - I work in the packaging and brand deployment business and have for longer than I care to remember. So a significant part of that also involves pack development and print including structural and materials. At the moment - I’m in the operations solutions aspect of the business and also the global lead in my organisation for CGI which covers product rendering and concept creation.
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Pretty sure this is just code for “make gadgets for the secret service”…
Thanks for alleviating my curiosity 
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Sounds more like the mafia to me…
Interesting… I am using an insulated aluminum container, originally made for coffee, but I make my powder energy drinks in that, and I can only imagine that they are quite acidic… 