So have meat. Huel is a brilliant part of a healthy diet, it doesn’t have to be all of it. O use dairy milk in my shakes all the time, tastes brilliant.
Likewise Thai green curry H&S is really nice with a bit of chicken or beef added to it.
I am really not into the milk protein in regular large proportions, just my feelings though, it worries me to be having that stuff in large regular doses, isn’t it the same stuff in protein shakes? The bi-product from cheese production, whey protein?
I’d stick to some good grass fed beef myself and Huel.
I am about to go back into a vegan phase with Huel to try it.
My last vegan phase I wasn’t putting much effort into my nutrition and macros and after 4 months on the vegan food my ‘carnivore’ friend came to visit.
We cooked some food and I ate a massive plate full of meat.
Felt like I had come back to life or something. Like. Felt massively different. Energetic. As if something had been missing. Was hard to ignore that experience.
I have been on a vegetarian diet for months on end when living in a Buddhist Centre in the past. Was fine, they cooked all the food, loads of good nutrition, vegs, nuts, all of it.
According to your messages, it’s the typical mistake of changing your diet from omnivore to only veggies all of a sudden. The thing it that you have to keep eating similar. So eat seitan, burgers, hot dogs, nuggets, pizza etc. but the vegan version. Try the beyond burger and sausages, etc etc. I mean, you were doing it wrong, it’s not that you can not be vegan. If tomorrow I start only eating lettuce of course I’m going to feel bad, and my body as well, but it’s not that I can not be vegan, it’s just that I didn’t make a transition to a similar diet (but without all the killing and animal abuse). Diaries also imply suffering, so in no way Huel should make diary products juts to please some people who don’t want to care about their diet, vitamine intake, or how to substitute their diet for a similar but cruelty free one.
So here’s the problem - you are blaming veganism for something that you didn’t research or do enough.
You are saying that there is a hole that needed to be filled? How? By consuming products that murder, rape and torture animals?
There are so many resources and qualified vegan doctors that can help with issues like that.
I don’t mind what you eat or consume (I don’t really care what anybody eats) but what I care about is when people start blaming veganism for their problems and say I had a health issue or I missed this.
This shows that our taste is so much more important than a life, an animal life and climate change. So let me ‘enjoy’ all these products and who cares if other humans will have a planet to live after 50-100 years.
Very selfish thing to do.
You had some ham and milk and felt so much better? Really?
If you want to be honest with yourself just say things as they are, but creating a story that makes you feel good is the wrong thing to do.
Veganims is not huel or it’s not eating vegan burgers every night is so much more.
The reason why vegans become ex-vegans is that they don’t really believe in veganism and turned vegan for the wrong reasons.
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Hm. I like most of what you say, but agricultural harvest is surrounded by massacre for many species. They’re just a lot smaller and not as cute as, for example, a lamb or cow - but they still exist.
(And this is just harvest. We’re not asking where the blood meal comes from that fertilises many crops in the UK or the effect pesticides have).
If we wanted to make like on this planet possible for a prolonged period of time our social and economic systems would have to undergo dramatic changes - changes as large that they seem to be very unrealistic. Maybe that is why so many people are non-vegan. But strictly speaking reproduction wouldn’t make sense then either, so yes, most choices of most people seem to be a bit inconsequent…
Thanks for the passionate discussion everyone I’m just going to add my 2 cents.
This is the key
Most animals are not on free-roaming fields eating grass they’re eating grains, which are harvested and grown in the same way as grains for human consumption. If they are grass-fed they will use more land and water because intensive farming is more efficient.
That land could be used to regrow habits and increase biodiversity and/or increase plants that can remove CO2 from the atmosphere.
Climate change is definitely within our means to solve but we must do it now. This includes government, corporate and individual action.
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Well, if agricultural harvest is what worries you, being vegan would minimize that since growing crops for animal feed to be made human food afterwards is less efficient that directly growing crops for humans. So you would reduce damage from that side as well.
It’s not, but nice dodge 
I’m fairly chill, but if anything bugs me it’s the assertion that switching to a vegan diet suddenly means nothing dies in order for us to eat.
You must know that blood meal is used to fertilise crops on a massive scale in industrial agriculture, where do you think that comes from?
Sure; I’m the one eating beef from a cow, but you’re still eating carrots grown in its blood. 
How many insects die due to pesticide use to protect crops?
And then you have harvest. With research in Australia estimating that at least 25 times more sentient animals are killed per kilogram of usable plant protein as compared to farming red meat.
But that’s made up of rodents, insects and arachnids, and they’re small, or icky looking, so whilst they die in almost countless numbers, people don’t care.
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Well put Tristan. 
That kinda sounds like maybe you needed iron. Since iron gives you energy and supposedly plant based iron is not as easy absorbed as animal iron.
In a way i get you. I love the moral of being a vegan, however I don’t think everyone do well in a vegan diet. A vegan diet can be really high in carbs, low in protein and have a lot of FODMAP.
I was vegan for a while and I decided to add dairy and eggs again because my digestion was getting worse somehow. I got to a point that I could not digest beans, legumes, grains and nuts. And that is the bulk of vegan protein source. Beside my digestion, I’ve gained a lot of weight as a vegan. I don’t think it works for me and that it is really demanding on our gut. But I would not be able to go back to eating meat after more than 5 years. So I’m trying to make it work somehow. I have compromised some things and added eggs and dairy. I’m getting Huel so that can compensate my protein and vitamin needs. And I also supplement vit B. D, omega 3 and iron.
By reading your post I could sense that you are trying to justify why you’re no longer vegetarian. Maybe you’re trying to give an explanation to yourself because you had certain expectations for yourself.
I’d say try to find what works best for you. We’re all different and unique.
Iron absorption is increased when taking it together with vitamin C. I just think that you are a bit too quick in remotely diagnosing iron deficiency…it could also be something else. A lab test would be necessary.
Not necessarily anemia. Needing extra iron does not always mean you have anemia.
I, for example, have tested fine for iron and B vit. GP said everything was fine but the nutritionist said it was low. So it isn’t always straight forward. Beside that our needs fluctuate according to our lives, stress, and so on.
Still, you’re right, only checking blood markers to know.
An isolated iron deficiency without clinical symptoms like “real” anemia would be a latent anemia - and you can see that in lab tests from ferritin levels.
Anyway…we are trying to discuss with someone who said that he is no longer in the forum…regardless of whether it is good advice or moral reprehension, it does not really seem to make sense to continue with it…