Is there any information on the aggregate total L-Arginine vs L-Lysine ratio, I know that Oats and Coconut weigh higher on the L-Arginine side for example.
Thank you
The amino acid profile of Huel is here.
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Thank you @JamesCollier
2000 Cal Diet
L-Arginine : 12230mg
L-Lysine : 8975mg
136.3% Ratio
Add 3255mg L-Lysine supplementation to equalize
Cool
Are you on 100% Huel?
Do you add a specific amount to a non-Huel diet, too?
What do you base this amount on?
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I’m on 100% U / U Huel, around ~2200 Calories, plus something solid so I can chew like rice cakes and occasionally red wine.
I also take L-Lysine to counteract what is essentially a chronic form of Chicken Pox that I get on my joints a few times a year. The virus propagates when abundant L-Arginine is present, however if you keep your amino profile ratio in favor of L-Lysine, it can block your L-Arginine absorption because they both use the same uptake mechanism.
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SRC [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6262023](Pub Med)
Great stuff. Yes, there is some science behind high lysine in Herpes Zoster infections.
How long have you been 100%?
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It’s been working for me and the extra Lysine helps my muscle mass as well.
I’ve been ~100% for 6 weeks. My first 2 weeks I had some considerable bloating (I was coming from an omnivorous, high animal protein, low fiber diet) but that subsided and now my digestive tract is doing great.
I began with U / GF, I decided to try the V / GF but that caused some very different digestive issues, so I switched back to U / GF. I don’t think my body agrees with artificial sweeteners.
After 6 weeks, I’m doing really well. I’m barely ever hungry, I feel very satiated and I’m actually starting to really enjoy the natural oat flavor now. I don’t add anything to it. After eliminating overly salted, overly sweetened foods, you can really detect the natural brightness of something as boring as oats.
You’ve really engineered an amazing product, I’m very thankful this exists.
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That is really good to hear you’re getting on so well.
Keep us posted!
For sure, I’ll get my nutritional blood profile done at the 6 month mark and report back.
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how much lysine do you take on top of your huel pleae? im currently suffering from what i think to be my second outbreak of type 1 and it finds itself to my genitals but starts with back pain!!
Dear James,
I started Huel once a day instead of lunch meal when I’m in the office. It’s not everyday, more like 3-4 times a week. At the same time a stopped my L-Lysin supplement intake. Just wanted to get my body a rest from all supplements and to see how it is doing by itself. And a herpes outbreak happened. Now I’m taking L-Lysin again. Can you guys consider to revise the L-Arginine v L-Lysine Aggregate Ratio in Huel? Even that there are just 3 people who posted here about their herpes, it is very common thing and many don’t even know about this ratio, so they are not aware that Huel causes the outbreaks of herpes…
Hi @remembering
Thanks for your feedback. It would actually not be possible to revise the arg:lys ratio of Huel due to the ingredients used. The only way this could really be achieved would be to scrap Huel and make a new product with lower amounts of the pea protein and brown rice protein and significant additions of all individual amino acids as the protein source. The problem with this is, whilst it may possibly satisfy a few of the herpes-simplex infected people, it wouldn’t suit a bunch of other people. And, more importantly, Huel would cease to be Huel and would be a supplement aimed at just a small number of people.
The easier fix would be to moderate one’s intake of Huel and supplement with additional lysine. This would also be cheaper for the consumer.