Serious concerns about the additions to v3!

@Phil_C don’t touch Christina’s cacao

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The other changes are fine with me but the kombucha worries me a little. I read about it on Wikipedia and get the impression from the review studies cited there, that it has zero proven benefits but actually serious risks for harmful side effects and contamination.
I also wonder why it would be advertised as a useful probiotic, when the only bacteria strain mentioned as characterizing Kombucha is one I’ve never heard of before at all, whereas many others are known for being necessary or beneficial for the human gut. Also, the yeast strain that is typically also included in Kombucha is discussed in terms of pathogenic effects, as many or more as beneficial ones (on the Wiki page: Saccharomyces_cerevisiae).

Including well-known probiotic strains to Huel (if feasible) would only make me more enthusiastic but Kombucha doesn’t sound so healthy at all.

I know the Huel team does a lot more research than just skimming one or two Wikipedia articles. And I’ve always been very impressed and reassured by your knowledge and choices concerning all the nutrients and ingredients in Huel. I’m just not reassured yet about the Kombucha…

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I also am not convinced about the addition of kombucha but only because I tend to need to avoid yeasts in my diet.

There are benefits: they are providing a proportion of the b vitamins now in Huel.
The probiotics are coming from the addition of Bacillus Coagulans, not necessarily the kombucha.

As for the risks of contamination etc - this is only an issue with home brewed kombucha or kombucha or foods made with kombucha that has been made in unsanitary environments or without proper knowledge of what you are doing (it is a fermentation process and involves bacteria so if you get it wrong it could be deadly) - it won’t apply to the powder that Huel is using.

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Never heard of kombucha does he play for Chelsea?

Came across this though,

8 Evidence-Based Health Benefits of Kombucha Tea

  • Kombucha is a Potential Source of Probiotics. …
  • Kombucha May Provide the Benefits of Green Tea. …
  • Kombucha Contains Antioxidants. …
  • Kombucha Can Kill Bacteria. …
  • Kombucha May Reduce Heart Disease Risk. …
  • Kombucha May Help Manage Type 2 Diabetes. …
  • Kombucha May Help Protect Against Cancer. …
  • Kombucha Is Healthy When Made Properly.

You May live past 200 years old like @hunzas ok I made that bit up :smiley:

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Could you provide sources when you claim something, and especially when you copy something?

Sure can :smiley: it’s something I just came across googling earlier I’ll dig it out my history.

Edit… Obviously if you put Kombucha in Google search it shows loads of stuff relevant or not it’s what caught my eye

Although the oracle that is Wikipedia says (amongst other things): “Numerous implausible health benefits have been attributed to drinking kombucha” :innocent:

This why I add my own cacao to the original or UU.

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Hi!
in the ingredients, I see “Kombucha Tea Powder”. Does is it still contain alcohol?
the article on new v3.0 says it is used as a source of vitamin B. using kombucha for that seems a bit overkill to me.

@medmed123
Why the price of Huel powder is changing with the launch of v3.0

See linked answer above - Dan seems to imply that the powder will not contain alcohol but didn’t make it an explicitly clear statement…

thanks. I read the other topic. I don’t like the idea of kombucha.
I made a new order of 2.3 and will wait for v3.1.
Or check competitors…

Frankly I don’t get the issue with alcohol from the kombucha. Firstly, only very small amounts of alcohol are found in kombucha, lower than 0.5%. Given that its powdered and only a very small percentage of the Huel powder will be kombucha powder, the potential alcohol amount will be homeopathic.

Lots of everyday foods contain traces of alcohol. If you leave juice in the fridge for a while, there will be natural fermentation starting, which also makes alcohol. Bread dough also contains alcohol as a byproduct from the fermentation, but the most evaporated with the baking.

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Hey, @ROAG has got it. There’s no chance of any intoxication and you wouldn’t even know it’s there. Just like how alcohols are used to extract flavours,

The reason I didn’t make an explicitly clear statement is because we want to confirm there is undetectable levels of alcohol because different religions have different beliefs around alcohol and food. Once we have the results I will update with more information.

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When’si first read about it i tought the same.

What’s the point of using an ingredient that will just make huel doubtful for many people?
I can’t see the point in using kombucha as a source of vitamin B.

I really hope you find something else in future versions but for now, I will pass on v3.

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I don’t think we’ve ever made a change to Huel that didn’t make someone question it or bother someone. I don’t mean that in an obstinate way, like “we don’t care we do what we want”, I just mean that nutrition is controversial and everyone has an opinion and when you’re working in this area it’s nearly impossible to please everyone all the time.

v2.3 will be available, please see Julian’s post here for details.

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You are right, that only a small amount of alcohol is present in kombucha, and that only a small amount of kombucha will be present in Huel, making the alcohol in Huel very small. However, consuming Huel on a daily basis (multiple times) means that the total amount of alcohol we consume will build up over time, and I am not too content with that.

Your liver will metabolise 30ml of alcohol an hour…the alcohol in Huel is negligible…

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It does not build up. Your liver breaks it down and it gets eliminated from your system. Your liver is all the time detoxifying chemicals and metabolizing drugs, so it can surely cope with such infinitesimal amounts.

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I think I would be in quite a state if the alcohol you consume builds up over your lifetime :wink:

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